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Forum Post: Lots of problems getting the Sieve calcs in the Lab Testing Module to work right

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I've just recently begun adding the Lab Testing Module to our gINT capabilities. Our lab currently uses Excel spreadsheets to do calculations on and report lab data. For sieve analysis, the lab most often does unsplit samples, which are moist to begin with, and first dries the total sample to get a moisture content, then does a wash on that dried sample to measure the -#200 fraction (running water on that dried sample through the #200 sieve, ASTM D1140), and then dries the portion coarser than #200 again and weighs it, for a dry sample to put through the rest of the sieves. Our lab uses cumulative weighing for recording sieve data after shaking the soil. The weight of the portion The problems I'm having with the Sieve table in the Lab Testing Group are many: 1. For samples that have a moisture content in the Sieve table, gINT apparently calculates Percent Finer on the basis of the equivalent wet weight. This is not correct according to ASTM C136, which states that the percentages passing should be calculated "on the basis of the total mass of the initial dry sample." Using the wet weight gives incorrect % Finer and really messes up the classification. I don't really want to reinvent the wheel and re-write my own custom formula for Percent_Finer, I can't find the actual code anywhere and this would be time consuming. 2. I'd like the Wt_Total_Spec to be able to be calculated/populated from the Water Content Coarse Dry Wt + Tare and the Water Content Coarse Wt Tare. How can I do this? 3. Whenever I have any data in the Water Content Coarse field (or the 3 fields used to calculate it), and select Weighing_Method as "Cummulative" (annoying that this is misspelled by the way), after I enter the individual Soil+Tare Wt values, I cannot save - I get an error message "The sum of the 'Soil + Tare Wt' for coarse sieves must be less than or equal to 'Wt Total Spec'." But this should not be the case for cumulative weighing - only the last/highest weight must be less than or equal to the Wt Total Spec. Am I missing something? So far overall this is not very useful to my organization, with the above issues and the fact that it looks like I will need to write several gINT Rules for certain things, which I haven't yet learned how to do.

Forum Post: RE: .ldb file not getting deleted after gINT crashes

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I have looked at the processes to see if I'm still running a gINT process, and it's not listed. When I try to delete the .ldb file after this happens, it says it can't be deleted because it's in use - by me. The only thing I have found to work is to kick everyone else out of gINT, then the file either disappears or it can be deleted.

Forum Post: RE: .ldb file not getting deleted after gINT crashes

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Yes if others have gINT open the .ldb will be present. That is default behavior. It makes sense if you kick everyone out that it disappears. Any time the gINT library is opened by anyone a .ldb file is created. The second person that tries to open will be in read only mode .. This just means that they cannot edit the library file..but they can use it to output etc... The message that "you" have it open doesn't make sense...but with multiple people accessing the same library the first person that opens the file, holds editable rights. There are two options you may want to consider. One is to secure the library so that only a gINT admin can edit the library. You can find detailed info in the help file .. the option is called secure library if you search for that in help it will give you all of the details. (this is the recommended way to manage your gINT library file). Users can still enter data..produce output reports ..they just can't edit the report designs..symbols etc... The second option you may want to consider is to allow more than one user to edit the file at the same time. This is a system property setting. This would need to be set on each persons computer.. goto file...system properties...check allow more than one user to open file for editing. The second option comes with a warning (USE AT YOUR OWN RISK). By allowing more than one user to edit the file at the same time increases the risk of file corruption and/or reports changing in the middle of a session.

Forum Post: RE: HasDATA_function as output condition

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Hi Sivarajan Try something like this: >')>> > 0,1,0)>> If you want to show the legend for specific samples add the SAMP table into the query. Paul

Comment on Unable to export to PDF

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Hello Kathleen, Running gINT 8.2 This didn't work for us. I also tried running the gint8pdfcomponents.exe from the original installer CD (this is what is instructed in the gINT help file) but it says it can't find this file: acfpdfuiamd64.dll This seems to be different to the file you point to in your solution above. Have you any idea?

Forum Post: Data expression for plot vs depth in fence

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I need to use a formula as a data expression for plot vs depths plot described below: If a sample has both SPT N values and (Liquid Limit and Plastic Limit) then use the following formula Calculate ( >*9,81*(( >- >)^0.22) If the sample has only SPT N value, then use the following formula: Calculate ( >*9,81*((15)^0.22))

Forum Post: Particle Size Distribution; D60, D30, D10

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Hello All, At the moment I currently use the graphvalue function to work out my gravel, sand, silt and clay percentages. I am wondering if anybody knows a way of switching this function so I can get the D60, D30 and D10? Or an alternative method? We have created our own version of gint therefore other suggestions on how to find Cu and Cc in gint std us lab version are not applicable. Thanks, Chris

Forum Post: RE: Particle Size Distribution; D60, D30, D10

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Hi, You can send me your files (library and project) This way I can see your customized files to see if it is possible to interpolate those values. This is and example expression for D60 (see below). You would need to change to the appropriate tables in your database. please send me your gINT files so I can determine the best way of if it is possible. kirk.johnson@bentley.com D## Particle size in millimeters at which ##% of the specimen passes (D90, D30, etc.). Here you would need the gINT Interpolate function: > where ## is the percentage you wish to interpolate. The trailing "L,A" tells the interpolate function that the first parameter is to be interpolated using a logarithmic scale and the second using an arithmetic scale. Using the standard Lab Testing tables and fields the following: >,_ >_ )>>,_ >,_ >_ )>> = 60,L,A_ )>> would return the D60 value. If you are using standard AGS file it would be something like this >_ > >,_ > = >,_ L,A_ )>>,0.001)>>

Forum Post: RE: Creating Links to PDF's of boring logs in Google Earth

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I'm having difficulties opening linked files from the snippet shown in the places pane in Google Earth. The links will open from the description in the placemark balloons but not from the snippet in the pane. This was not happening when I originally created the links, though. Is there a way to fix this?

Forum Post: RE: Creating Links to PDF's of boring logs in Google Earth

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I have been able to duplicate this behavior by unchecking the "Show web results in external browser" box in google earth under Tools, Options, General Tab. This box should be checked per the instructions in the original post to force the PDF to display in a separate window rather than in the google earth map pane. Not sure why this causes a problem but check it and see if it resolves your issue.

Comment on gINT Rules Code Manual

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Hi Kathleen, can you tell me where can i find information about manage lithology graphics on gINT. Thanks.

Forum Post: RE: Creating Links to PDF's of boring logs in Google Earth

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What you suggested worked when I tested that on a google earth file with direct file paths in the reference links, but when I tested it in my file with relative file paths in the reference links, it didn't work. Do you know if relative references just don't work in snippets, or is there a work-around I could try?

Forum Post: RE: Creating Links to PDF's of boring logs in Google Earth

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Based on your description it appears you are trying to include full file paths to your pdf files of boring logs. Back many moons ago (when I first posted this) I had gone through a long process of trying to incorporate file paths into the link. I had many issues with google earth not interpreting the file path correctly. Spaces in the file path caused issues, special characters in the file path caused issues, mapped drives in file paths caused issues. I finally decided that not using file paths and simply placing the kml file in the same directory as the pdf files was the way to go. This allowed me to easily move the boring logs and kml to any location I wanted to without needing to change the links. I could load as many kml's as I wanted to for different projects in google earth and they would all find their own respective pdf's even if they were in different directories. And, when our IT people decided to change our network directory structure, it was not a big deal; once I fond the new path to the kml every thing worked fine. I could even place the directory containing the pdf's and kml on a CD or flash drive for off-line use. And finally, the gINT project file did not need to contain path information so it also was easily transportable to other locations and other servers. This is why the original post was written to not include file path information in the link. I would hope that google earth's html interpreter would have improved since the original post and perhaps now file paths can be reliably incorporated into the links but I have not explored that option recently. Not using file paths and placing the kml in the directory with the logs has provided all the functionality I have needed so far. If you want to break your boring logs down into to subgroups with each stored in it's own directory, simply create a KML for each subgroup and then open each kml on start. If you find you can reliably include path information, please update this post with your findings.

Forum Post: RE: gINT bugs in Windows 10

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We're having issues with PDF export too. We use a non-standard truetype font (revel) for our company logo. This shows up ok in preview, but when we try to export logs etc to PDF, gINT converts revel to arial. Very annoying. We can print using the PDF printer, but apparently we have to do this one page at a time.

Forum Post: Data Posting Values Overlapping

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We have columns on our logs that contain 2 Plot Vs. Depth items for test data results. For LL, PL, moisture content and fines content we have the data value posted as well. When multiple tests are plotted in close physical proximity on the log the values tend to overlap each other as well as log borders and other log features. Is there any way to make these values plot "intelligently" or aware of the other features and move automatically?

Forum Post: RE: Data Posting Values Overlapping

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The LL, PL, Moisture Content values are posted as per the Sample depth (if that is what is indicated as the Depth Expression). Unfortunately, it is not possible for gINT to be intelligently aware and move the other features based on the close/near Depths that is resulting the values to overlap. gINT std library has a General/TP/BH is a smart log template but it is not designed to record lab data.

Forum Post: RE: Data Posting Values Overlapping

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I am aware of how the feature works and why they plot where they do. I am hoping someone has come up with a work around for this. I seem to recall reading something about this a long time ago and somebody had a bit of a solution.

Forum Post: RE: gINT bugs in Windows 10

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Hi Mike, Thanks for reporting.. We will release notification when gINT is supported on windows 10. At the current time it is in the process of being certified on windows 10 .Exporting to pdf is definitely one of the issues the development team needs to redesign in order for it to work on windows 10.

Forum Post: RE: How do I get rid of the period at the end of the material description when there is no data?

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I am still having issues with this problem. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Forum Post: RE: How do I get rid of the period at the end of the material description when there is no data?

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Hello Aimee, Check your report template under report design tab and open the column for Material Description to see its associated text expression. If you are using gINT STD files, the material description column has the text expression > When you go to Data Design>User system data and select the Description lithology from the yellow selector, it shows that the expression is coming from Description Soil Lithology, Description Rock Lithology and then from the Lithology Description field. To check what Description Soil Lithology is, go to Data Design> library Data and select Description Soil Lithology from the yellow selector. Once you have this change the tab to Data Design>Library Table. Once you have this, check the Suffix column to see if there is any Suffix associated "." with any of the Data Expressions. For example, like it is shown here:
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